tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post1033785287459308524..comments2024-01-19T08:08:23.595-08:00Comments on All of My Faults Are Stress-Related: No, misrepresentations about the process of science don't help prepare Earth Science studentsKimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07738706550175991130noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-42667041442252193712009-02-16T14:21:00.000-08:002009-02-16T14:21:00.000-08:00Very well put. It's especially disappointing to he...Very well put. It's especially disappointing to hear this from a testing agency, since that sets so much of K-12 curriculum.<BR/><BR/>I hope you do manage to send in the survey. (Actually, I'm kind of surprised that they aren't doing it electronically. Are our testing agencies that far behind?)Ben Lilliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311612647895683075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-11933386392839700282009-02-13T04:06:00.000-08:002009-02-13T04:06:00.000-08:00Yay, Kim!There is a wonderful diversity in science...Yay, Kim!<BR/>There is a wonderful diversity in science that is unknown to many.<BR/><BR/>(I didn't get a survey, though <I>(sigh)</I> )kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10257117054497814642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-26647484571436417132009-02-13T03:29:00.000-08:002009-02-13T03:29:00.000-08:00I love this post. I hope you do send in your rant ...I love this post. I hope you do send in your rant (maybe using ScienceWoman's envelope). I agree with everything you say here and actually hope that we as earth science teachers and communicators can do at least something to change this misconception. <BR/><BR/>FWIW. The country where I currently reside recently introduced geoscience as a high school subject of the same value as biology, physics and chemistry. I just read an article* about it yesterday, and was so impressed that a group of enthusiasts had actually been able to make this happen on a national scale (granted this is a small country, but anyway). they were doing interviews with some of the students and several of them mentioned geosciences as an attractive career option. <BR/><BR/>*The article is in a Scandinavian language, so I won't link to it, but if anyone is interested and would be able to read it, let me know.saxifragahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11350662136988602572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-11462145802651350012009-02-12T17:10:00.000-08:002009-02-12T17:10:00.000-08:00I got one of those surveys too and that section an...I got one of those surveys too and that section annoyed me so much that i never finished it. Just today I consigned it to the recycle bin - but I'm sure I could fish out the envelope if you need it!ScienceWomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11252480538852802610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-71839517254800829492009-02-12T15:12:00.000-08:002009-02-12T15:12:00.000-08:00I'm an earth science student I had trouble with th...I'm an earth science student I had trouble with the classic scientific process definitions. Surprisingly, I got the best perspective on natural experiments and looking backward in time from a labor ECONOMICS class I took as an upper level elective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-7393725133770714552009-02-12T13:05:00.000-08:002009-02-12T13:05:00.000-08:00I worked as a high school science teacher for seve...I worked as a high school science teacher for seven years (I taught everything -- chemistry, physics, biology, Earth science :) , and web page design). There is not a high school Earth science textbook that presents the "scientific method" any different than in a laboratory science textbook, such as chemistry or physics. There is never a mention of geology being a historical science; that the experiment has already been run in nature and our job as scientists is to figure out what happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-9231550498567999762009-02-12T09:48:00.000-08:002009-02-12T09:48:00.000-08:00It makes you wonder how much crap we were taught i...It makes you wonder how much crap we were taught in English Lit, too. And history.Andrew Alden, Oakland Geology bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369367151045054784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-46374781004323427232009-02-12T09:23:00.000-08:002009-02-12T09:23:00.000-08:00Let me agree also. From elementary school on throu...Let me agree also.<BR/><BR/> From elementary school on through high school the idea of science done outside is just unheard of. I love the drawing. I can visualize T-shirts!Geology Happenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17009558103508195084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-19185098934633909862009-02-12T09:18:00.000-08:002009-02-12T09:18:00.000-08:00I completely agree. And you could go further: the ...I completely agree. And you could go further: the whole "science is something you do in labs" misconception must have a bearing on the disconnect between most people and science that we here so much about.<BR/><BR/>And I hope you find the envelope.Chris Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923865059164569384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-7154895118157464302009-02-12T08:21:00.000-08:002009-02-12T08:21:00.000-08:00Kim ... I couldn't agree more! Thanks for posting ...Kim ... I couldn't agree more! Thanks for posting about this.<BR/><BR/>I think the 'Understanding Science' visualization here does a great job of moving us forward from the old-school linear scientific method I learned in grade school (and is still taught):<BR/><BR/>http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/scienceflowchartAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-5984499205220349052009-02-12T08:12:00.000-08:002009-02-12T08:12:00.000-08:00Bravo! Hear, hear!Bravo! Hear, hear!Callan Bentleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15422791444429372896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563205518828267408.post-6439614363135007412009-02-12T08:02:00.000-08:002009-02-12T08:02:00.000-08:00One of the biggest problems I face in doing scienc...One of the biggest problems I face in doing science journalism is the fundamental misunderstanding my audience have about what science is, and what scientists do. This is a great example of one of the misconceptions.John Fleckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01945772782727225745noreply@blogger.com